Comments on: US Soccer Development Academy: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:20:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Brian Jackson http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-16480 Brian Jackson Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:51:52 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-16480 Get this: one California Academy club was at risk for losing all of its practice fields (rented from a local school district) because it decided to restrict its Academy players from playing high school. The school district reacted by threatening to disallow use of the fields (there is tremendous competition for use of the fields so the revenue would keep coming in AND those schools are regularly top in the area in soccer which loss of these players would affect). The club responded by saying that the players who go to those schools (maybe 1/6th of the roster) could not play Academy in the months of HS soccer (so, conceivably, the boys could play HS or not but couldn't play Academy). Then they told all the other Academy players that they CAN'T play HS. Different rules for kids on the same team. Oh, the revolt is coming! Get this: one California Academy club was at risk for losing all of its practice fields (rented from a local school district) because it decided to restrict its Academy players from playing high school. The school district reacted by threatening to disallow use of the fields (there is tremendous competition for use of the fields so the revenue would keep coming in AND those schools are regularly top in the area in soccer which loss of these players would affect). The club responded by saying that the players who go to those schools (maybe 1/6th of the roster) could not play Academy in the months of HS soccer (so, conceivably, the boys could play HS or not but couldn’t play Academy). Then they told all the other Academy players that they CAN’T play HS. Different rules for kids on the same team. Oh, the revolt is coming!

]]> By: Miles http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-15542 Miles Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:54:31 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-15542 I think the whole academy thing is flawed. If you look at the history of soccer, it's clear that the best to ever play the game come from modest backgrounds, playing without much coaching, if any, while growing up, and simply playing for the love of the game. They may be brought into developmental teams to increase there "soccer IQ", as someone referred to it, but the basic skills and creativity are already there by the time it gets to that point. The true "cream of the crop" has been identified. So long as U.S. soccer continues to fail to extend its soccer arms to encompass our huge population of 350 million or so, we will never get to the next level. We are severely reducing our player pool with our current system, looking at a percent of a percent of the young talent that's out there. I can't believe with the number of kids playing today, that the U.S. doesn't have the talent to compete at top levels in the near future. Just look at Uruguay, for example, with a population roughly equal to that of Connecticutt. They've won more Copa America's than any other country, including Argentina and Brazil. Even Costa Rica with fewer resources and a population of 3.5 million continues to compete with the U.S. In reality, it shouldn't even be close. I think the whole academy thing is flawed. If you look at the history of soccer, it’s clear that the best to ever play the game come from modest backgrounds, playing without much coaching, if any, while growing up, and simply playing for the love of the game. They may be brought into developmental teams to increase there “soccer IQ”, as someone referred to it, but the basic skills and creativity are already there by the time it gets to that point. The true “cream of the crop” has been identified. So long as U.S. soccer continues to fail to extend its soccer arms to encompass our huge population of 350 million or so, we will never get to the next level. We are severely reducing our player pool with our current system, looking at a percent of a percent of the young talent that’s out there. I can’t believe with the number of kids playing today, that the U.S. doesn’t have the talent to compete at top levels in the near future. Just look at Uruguay, for example, with a population roughly equal to that of Connecticutt. They’ve won more Copa America’s than any other country, including Argentina and Brazil. Even Costa Rica with fewer resources and a population of 3.5 million continues to compete with the U.S. In reality, it shouldn’t even be close.

]]> By: Daniel Gomez http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-15254 Daniel Gomez Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:09:56 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-15254 You guys are forgetting one huge detail. Americans aren't students... there just athletes. They don't know shit about soccer knowledge,knowledge and smarts wins the game. Soccer is for smart players to dominate. Ill give you a perfect example. I went to high school with twin girls who currently play at akron and buffalo, soccer scholarships. These are two powerhouses in college soccer. I asked them who johan cruyff was.... NO IDEA. Or when was the first wordl cup.... speechless. THIS IS THE PROBLEMM! Were just fast and strong.... THATS IT. We dont read about the game, we need players who understand it more and have mpre technique. SOCCER STUDENT ATHLETES You guys are forgetting one huge detail. Americans aren’t students… there just athletes. They don’t know shit about soccer knowledge,knowledge and smarts wins the game. Soccer is for smart players to dominate. Ill give you a perfect example. I went to high school with twin girls who currently play at akron and buffalo, soccer scholarships. These are two powerhouses in college soccer. I asked them who johan cruyff was…. NO IDEA. Or when was the first wordl cup…. speechless. THIS IS THE PROBLEMM! Were just fast and strong…. THATS IT. We dont read about the game, we need players who understand it more and have mpre technique. SOCCER STUDENT ATHLETES

]]> By: Jason Ayto http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-13072 Jason Ayto Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:31:14 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-13072 This article from my experience of one of the bigger USSF Academies is absolutely spot on!! Obsessed with winning and not putting into place a process of developing a highly technical and game intelligent player. Most important aspect of this is having coaches with high soccer IQ's and understanding. This article from my experience of one of the bigger USSF Academies is absolutely spot on!! Obsessed with winning and not putting into place a process of developing a highly technical and game intelligent player. Most important aspect of this is having coaches with high soccer IQ’s and understanding.

]]> By: Arnold http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-12751 Arnold Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:25:40 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-12751 Gary, thank you for taking the time to answer my question and then some. A consulting business huh? That sounds great! I'd love to see the blueprint of the metrics that you would use despite the obvious benchmarks that have already been discussed in various threads. Gary,
thank you for taking the time to answer my question and then some. A consulting business huh? That sounds great! I’d love to see the blueprint of the metrics that you would use despite the obvious benchmarks that have already been discussed in various threads.

]]> By: Gary Kleiban http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-12703 Gary Kleiban Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:38:52 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-12703 Absolutely Arnold! Thus far, I've elected not to point the finger specifically at clubs/people. I think that would work against the mission I'm on. For one thing, my relationships and network need to remain strong and healthy. To be honest, even criticizing Bob Bradley as I do is risky. Additionally, if I really let loose and mentioned this or that club, or this or that coach as being incompetent, it might just look like I have a personal beef with them - or any kind of ulterior agenda. So I just think if I'm successful in educating people what quality IS and IS NOT, then they'll be capable of exposing the posers themselves. Finally, I have thought of opening some sort of consulting service(s), whereby I would give my customers detailed evaluations of specific clubs/coaches they are interested in. Hope that answers it ... Absolutely Arnold!

Thus far, I’ve elected not to point the finger specifically at clubs/people. I think that would work against the mission I’m on.

For one thing, my relationships and network need to remain strong and healthy. To be honest, even criticizing Bob Bradley as I do is risky.

Additionally, if I really let loose and mentioned this or that club, or this or that coach as being incompetent, it might just look like I have a personal beef with them – or any kind of ulterior agenda.

So I just think if I’m successful in educating people what quality IS and IS NOT, then they’ll be capable of exposing the posers themselves.

Finally, I have thought of opening some sort of consulting service(s), whereby I would give my customers detailed evaluations of specific clubs/coaches they are interested in.

Hope that answers it …

]]> By: Arnold http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-12684 Arnold Sun, 03 Apr 2011 05:14:41 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-12684 Is there a reason why you did not specify the clubs you are talking about in your last post? Is there a reason why you did not specify the clubs you are talking about in your last post?

]]> By: Gary Kleiban http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-9725 Gary Kleiban Fri, 17 Dec 2010 01:07:29 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-9725 Hi Scott, This is for better or worse the the way of not just the academy, but club soccer as a whole. Most every team that aspires to be competitive has a large player attrition rate. We really have no choice. Specifically for the academy (U16 / U18), I believe this is as it should be. If a coach feels a player does not have what it takes, then it's time to look for a replacement. As bad as it may reflect on me, that is exactly what I would do. My goal is to develop professionals, so I need kids who I judge to have that potential. But where I think you are right is in a lack of high level development going on. In the SoCal Division, which I am intimate with, I can confidently say there is: * only one club that does a good (not excellent) job * 2 maybe 3 that are mediocre (meaning their players at least don't get worse) * the rest are pretty much worthless. I believe the players are actually being harmed from a development perspective. Note: I am yet to see RSL and the "new" Cosmos play. Hi Scott,
This is for better or worse the the way of not just the academy, but club soccer as a whole. Most every team that aspires to be competitive has a large player attrition rate. We really have no choice.

Specifically for the academy (U16 / U18), I believe this is as it should be. If a coach feels a player does not have what it takes, then it’s time to look for a replacement. As bad as it may reflect on me, that is exactly what I would do. My goal is to develop professionals, so I need kids who I judge to have that potential.

But where I think you are right is in a lack of high level development going on. In the SoCal Division, which I am intimate with, I can confidently say there is:
* only one club that does a good (not excellent) job
* 2 maybe 3 that are mediocre (meaning their players at least don’t get worse)
* the rest are pretty much worthless. I believe the players are actually being harmed from a development perspective.

Note: I am yet to see RSL and the “new” Cosmos play.

]]> By: Scott http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-9631 Scott Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:38:36 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-9631 I completely agree with you. Plus to address the issue that there are not enough MLS teams to serve the country, give Academy status to some USL teams. That will support that league as well. Oh, and it should always be free at the academy level. Always. I completely agree with you. Plus to address the issue that there are not enough MLS teams to serve the country, give Academy status to some USL teams. That will support that league as well. Oh, and it should always be free at the academy level. Always.

]]> By: Scott http://blog.3four3.com/2010/02/12/us-soccer-development-academy-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-9629 Scott Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:37:05 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=1426#comment-9629 The development academy is not just for MLS teams. But... the system is seriously flawed as can be seen by the selection of who is an academy. Locally to me, the Baltimore Bays are a development academy. They have no fields, no underlying program and have the best teams due to recruitment, not player development. They throw away kids with potential all the time because their goals are to win now, even at U10. My son plays for them, it is the only program in town of a high level so I have no choice. At the same time, I have coached in better clubs than the Bays in the DC area and Seattle where true development is being done so I do see where it is being done properly. The development academy is not just for MLS teams. But… the system is seriously flawed as can be seen by the selection of who is an academy. Locally to me, the Baltimore Bays are a development academy. They have no fields, no underlying program and have the best teams due to recruitment, not player development. They throw away kids with potential all the time because their goals are to win now, even at U10. My son plays for them, it is the only program in town of a high level so I have no choice. At the same time, I have coached in better clubs than the Bays in the DC area and Seattle where true development is being done so I do see where it is being done properly.

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