Comments on: US U-20 World Cup Performance Falls Short Due to Match Readiness? http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 04:20:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jim http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/comment-page-1/#comment-3767 Jim Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:52:05 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=558#comment-3767 Dilly Duka Highlights on youtube, he is the best attackin mid for USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY2EN453F4 Dilly Duka Highlights on youtube, he is the best attackin mid for USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY2EN453F4

]]> By: Dane http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/comment-page-1/#comment-3766 Dane Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:49:09 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=558#comment-3766 i was surprise when i saw that Duka didn't start for Germany and they replaced him with dillon power and from this day on i still don't know who that kid was... DUKA in the other hand was i the guy who started every game for two years at Rugters college and start four games in the CONCACAF was named best attacking mid of the tournament , but then the coach decide to take out the starters to try out bench players for the finals those that make sense to anyone, its like he wanted to lose just like the game with germany i was surprise when i saw that Duka didn’t start for Germany and they replaced him with dillon power and from this day on i still don’t know who that kid was… DUKA in the other hand was i the guy who started every game for two years at Rugters college and start four games in the CONCACAF was named best attacking mid of the tournament , but then the coach decide to take out the starters to try out bench players for the finals those that make sense to anyone, its like he wanted to lose just like the game with germany

]]> By: Thiago http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/comment-page-1/#comment-3727 Thiago Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:21:24 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=558#comment-3727 Mr Rongen admits lack of preparation for a WC, more to blame him. Mr Rongen admits lack of preparation for a WC, more to blame him.

]]> By: Gary Kleiban http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/comment-page-1/#comment-3725 Gary Kleiban Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:25:45 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=558#comment-3725 @ Sevon You are absolutely right on both fronts! I know from the youth club and college scene in southern california that the "good ol'e boy" network is alive and well. It's the same guys in power at the different clubs for years on end, without any accountability for player development, team, or club performance. The worse part is the vast majority are "clueless" when it comes to this game. Little by little, as the public becomes more informed, they will be exposed. I suspect the same is going on at the national level ... It's true, barring a few scholarship players per team, one must be at least middle to upper middle class to play competitively and move up the "food chain". However, there are still many "elite" players, regardless of economic status, playing in the club and college scene. But most are not selected to the national level. The vast majority of coaches and scouts simply don't "have it". @Jason Interesting that you mention "playing for contracts". If I remember correctly, Michael Stephens (UCLA) made a statement about how excited he was to not only play for his country, but to be scouted by pro clubs. Not a knock on Stephens -I don't blame him- but it shows that this was indeed a big thing in the back of player's minds. By contrast, this is probably not as big a theme for players in the big soccer nations. They are already in a well oiled professional producing infrastructure. I'll have to research to see how many on this roster were at the last U-17 WC ... @ Sevon
You are absolutely right on both fronts! I know from the youth club and college scene in southern california that the “good ol’e boy” network is alive and well. It’s the same guys in power at the different clubs for years on end, without any accountability for player development, team, or club performance. The worse part is the vast majority are “clueless” when it comes to this game. Little by little, as the public becomes more informed, they will be exposed. I suspect the same is going on at the national level …

It’s true, barring a few scholarship players per team, one must be at least middle to upper middle class to play competitively and move up the “food chain”. However, there are still many “elite” players, regardless of economic status, playing in the club and college scene. But most are not selected to the national level. The vast majority of coaches and scouts simply don’t “have it”.

@Jason
Interesting that you mention “playing for contracts”. If I remember correctly, Michael Stephens (UCLA) made a statement about how excited he was to not only play for his country, but to be scouted by pro clubs. Not a knock on Stephens -I don’t blame him- but it shows that this was indeed a big thing in the back of player’s minds. By contrast, this is probably not as big a theme for players in the big soccer nations. They are already in a well oiled professional producing infrastructure.

I’ll have to research to see how many on this roster were at the last U-17 WC …

]]> By: Jason http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/comment-page-1/#comment-3724 Jason Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:31:46 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=558#comment-3724 Hey teach. Good insight. This U-20 did team horrible at the U-17 world cup last time around so I guess we foresaw what would happen. Ownby was terrible. I have to questions Rongen's tactics because Arguez looked decent against Germany. Jeffrey is amazingly slow. And for excuses, I think having Anthony Wallace over Mayen/Flores at LB would've helped a ton out. It seemed half the team was playing for contracts then for the team (Taylor, Williams, Opara, etc.) And Break Shea needs to learn how to finish or be Spector-ized and converted to a defender. Hey teach. Good insight. This U-20 did team horrible at the U-17 world cup last time around so I guess we foresaw what would happen. Ownby was terrible. I have to questions Rongen’s tactics because Arguez looked decent against Germany. Jeffrey is amazingly slow. And for excuses, I think having Anthony Wallace over Mayen/Flores at LB would’ve helped a ton out. It seemed half the team was playing for contracts then for the team (Taylor, Williams, Opara, etc.) And Break Shea needs to learn how to finish or be Spector-ized and converted to a defender.

]]> By: Sevon http://blog.3four3.com/2009/10/22/us-u-20-world-cup-performance-falls-short-due-to-match-readiness/comment-page-1/#comment-3721 Sevon Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:05:37 +0000 http://blog.3four3.com/?p=558#comment-3721 The good ol'e boys will always be in business. They have a model of what an international player should look and play like and that model do not fit most kids that are from the inner city (where most of the TRUE athletes resides). As long as this model is being followed we will always be at the bottom of the barrel. In America futbol is an surburbia/elitist sport that if you don't have money then you can't play competitive youth soccer. Once you loose the kids when their young then you lost them for ever. The good ol’e boys will always be in business. They have a model of what an international player should look and play like and that model do not fit most kids that are from the inner city (where most of the TRUE athletes resides). As long as this model is being followed we will always be at the bottom of the barrel. In America futbol is an surburbia/elitist sport that if you don’t have money then you can’t play competitive youth soccer. Once you loose the kids when their young then you lost them for ever.

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